#2 Emil Thorup

Emil Thorup — Danish entrepreneur, TV host and one of the biggest voices in Scandinavian longevity — sits down with Jesper to argue the opposite of what he's known for: less biohacking, more fundamentals. We get two years of carnivore, 117 pills a day, alternating fat and carb days, why Blue Zones aren't actually real, and how the sun beats every red light panel you can buy.

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