09. Jessica Helfand, part 2

In my second conversation with Jessica Helfand — recorded earlier this month when Jessica was in Baltimore — we talk about Winterhouse (the studio she co-founded with William Drenttel), publishing, the role of design (and design criticism) in Trump's America, and what she's learned in her first semester teaching design at the Yale School of Management. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.