AI slop in cybersecurity, OT security fails and lessons from the Louvre heist
42 min•12 november 2025
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Have we lost the plot when it comes to AI malware?
This week, host Matt Kosinski and panelists Claire Nunez, Austin Zeizel and Dave Bales discuss the growing trend of cybersecurity pros pushing back on AI malware “research.” Is it all puffery? Genuine threat? Some secret third thing?
Plus: How hackers are stealing real-world cargo, time-delayed malware, the Louvre’s weak password and why don't more people patch their OT systems?
00:00 – Introduction
01:15 – The IT-OT gap
11:18 – Digital cargo thieves
20:12 – Time-delayed logic bombs
25:53 – AI malware vs. AI slop
33:47 – The Louvre’s password
The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the views of IBM or any other organization or entity.
Learn more about AI malware → https://www.ibm.com/think/insights/defend-against-ai-malware
Have we lost the plot when it comes to AI malware?
This week, host Matt Kosinski and panelists Claire Nunez, Austin Zeizel and Dave Bales discuss the growing trend of cybersecurity pros pushing back on AI malware “research.” Is it all puffery? Genuine threat? Some secret third thing?
Plus: How hackers are stealing real-world cargo, time-delayed malware, the Louvre’s weak password and why don't more people patch their OT systems?
00:00 – Introduction
01:15 – The IT-OT gap
11:18 – Digital cargo thieves
20:12 – Time-delayed logic bombs
25:53 – AI malware vs. AI slop
33:47 – The Louvre’s password
The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the views of IBM or any other organization or entity.
Learn more about AI malware → https://www.ibm.com/think/insights/defend-against-ai-malware
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