Narcissism vs Borderline: The Signs Everyone Gets Wrong with Dr. Suzanne Wallach

Disclaimer: This interview includes in-depth discussions of serious mental health topics, such as personality disorders and other highly sensitive subjects. These topics may be distressing or triggering for some listeners.

In this episode of SHE MD, Mary Alice Haney and Dr. Thaïs Aliabadi sit down with Dr. Suzanne Wallach, a leading expert in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), to unpack what every woman should understand about emotional regulation, trauma, and personality disorders. From the difference between borderline personality disorder, bipolar disorder, and narcissism to the real signs of emotional dysregulation, this conversation brings clarity to topics that are often misunderstood and misdiagnosed.

Dr. Wallach breaks down how trauma shapes behavior, why narcissists rarely seek help, and what narcissistic abuse and gaslighting actually look like in relationships. The conversation also explores how to recognize unhealthy patterns, why you should never stay in a relationship where you’re being disrespected, and how emotional overwhelm impacts your ability to think clearly or problem-solve in the moment.

You’ll also learn practical, science-backed tools you can start using immediately, including DBT techniques like the TIPP method for panic attacks and emotional distress. The episode expands into parenting and generational trauma, offering insight on how to raise emotionally healthy children through validation, boundaries, and consistency. If you’ve ever struggled with your emotions, relationships, or mental health, this episode is filled with actionable strategies to help you regain control and build a more stable, grounded life.

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What You’ll Learn

• The difference between borderline personality disorder (BPD), bipolar disorder, and narcissism
• Why narcissists rarely self-diagnose, and why they’re difficult to treat
• Signs you may be experiencing emotional dysregulation or unresolved trauma
• What narcissistic abuse and gaslighting actually look like
• Why BPD is often misdiagnosed as bipolar disorder
• The role of childhood trauma in personality disorders
• How to tell if someone is a narcissist. or just not treating you well
• Why you should never stay in a relationship where you’re being disrespected
• The DBT “TIPP” method for panic attacks and emotional overwhelm
• How to lower distress quickly and regain control of your thoughts
• Why you can’t problem-solve while emotionally flooded
• The importance of sleep, nutrition, and physical health in emotional regulation
• How to raise emotionally healthy children without shame or overpraise
• Why validation and boundaries must coexist in parenting
• How generational trauma develops, and how to break the cycle

Key Timestamps

(0:00) Introduction to SHE MD

(3:16) Welcome Dr. Suzanne Wallach!

(4:54) What Is Narcissism?

(6:36) Is Narcissism Based On Childhood Trauma?

(8:27) Borderline Personality Disorder vs Narcissism?

(12:41) Borderline vs Dependent Personality Disorder

(13:37) Cluster B Disorders: Higher Risk of Self-Harm & Suicide

(14:05) Women Are Overdiagnosed With Personality Disorders

(15:58) Many Therapists Avoid Treating Borderline Personality Disorder

(22:15) DBT Skills Coaching: 24/7 Support in Crisis Moments

(23:36) Thoughts vs Ideation

(27:00) How Dr. Suzanne Handle Patients With Suicide Plans

(30:29) Does Trauma Come First in Treating Cluster B Disorders

(37:35) How to Avoid Raising a Narcissist as a Parent

(38:20) Praise Parenting: Where’s the Healthy Balance?

(42:24) Opposite Parenting Styles After Divorce

(48:01) Should Trauma Be the First Focus in Treating DBT?

(58:54) How to Recognize BPD or Narcissism: Key Signs & Diagnosis

(1:02:44) What Is Bipolar Disorder?

(1:04:40) Bipolar vs BPD: Genetics vs Trauma

(1:05:05) The TIPP Skill

(1:13:45) Rapid Fire Questions

Key Takeaways

• You can’t think clearly during emotional distress. Regulation must come first
• Personality disorders are treatable, and many can go into remission
• Trauma often drives behavior, but it doesn’t excuse staying in harmful situations
• Emotional regulation is a skill that can be learned with the right tools
• Boundaries are essential, even when you understand someone’s pain
• Parenting requires both emotional validation and consistent consequences
• Small daily tools (like breathing or cold exposure) can dramatically reduce anxiety

Guest Bio

Dr. Suzanne Wallach is a clinical psychologist and DBT specialist based in Los Angeles. She is the founder of SoCal DBT, where she and her team provide high-fidelity, evidence-based Dialectical Behavior Therapy for individuals, couples, and families. Her work focuses on helping patients regulate emotions, heal from trauma, and build healthier relationships through practical, science-backed tools.

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