#67 The Dreaming Path Podcast: Uncle Paul Callaghan & Uncle Paul Gordon (Encore)

Join SAND co-founders Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo in conversation with Aboriginal elders and authors Uncle Paul Callaghan and Uncle Paul Gordon for a powerful SAND Community Gathering (2023), “The Dreaming Path,” where they explored some of the profound Aboriginal teachings.

Connect with Uncle Paul Gordon and dozens of other Indigenous speakers at the 7-Day The Eternal Song Gathering hosted live by SAND June 3-9 2025.

“Our stories are not myths or legends or fables, they aren’t about dreams either”
—Uncle Paul Callaghan

Topics

• 0:00 – Introduction
• 4:33 – Dreamtime
• 13:00 – Aboriginal Lore
• 20:26 – A Dreamtime Story
• 32:16 – Importance of Relationality
• 41:26 – 2023 Australian Indigenous Voice Referendum