Was Walt Disney an Occultist? | Thomas Paranoid American on Straight Bible

Was Walt Disney an occultist? Former Disney artist Thomas Paranoid American says yes. Matt Hepner asks what money can't buy (Acts 8:18-20).
Thomas Paranoid American on Straight Bible with Matt Hepner: the full conversation.

Thomas worked at Disney from 2003 to 2016, and he joined the Freemasons. His view of Walt Disney: "Walt Disney was an occultist at heart." He points to Walt's membership in DeMolay and says the early films, starting with Snow White, taught "Rosicrucianism." After Walt died, he says, the studio kept the pattern only because it sold: "you traumatize a kid... you kill their parents," and then the sidekick becomes the Happy Meal toy. Walt's "nine old men" carried it on.

Along the way: political kayfabe, secret societies giving way to boardrooms, egregores, what happens inside a lodge, the Franklin scandal, adrenochrome, the Time Samplers comic and Jekyll Island, the Woodpecker Grid, a $70,000 pilot offer with a Margaret Sanger stipulation, nostalgia as a delivery system, and Project Montauk. These are Thomas's accounts and research, and he labels several of them as unproven.

Matt keeps coming back to Scripture. On adrenochrome, he cites the Jerusalem council telling Gentile believers to "abstain... from blood" (Acts 15:20). On money and secret knowledge, he cites Simon the sorcerer, who offered money for the Holy Ghost and heard "Thy money perish with thee" (Acts 8:18-20): "If the church doesn't have something supernatural... then it doesn't have anything." Thomas read the Bible end to end four times in military confinement and says it never clicked. Matt closes by praying for him, asking "Where is the LORD God of Elijah?" (2 Kings 2:14).

Clips from this conversation
• What is an egregore? (14:38): https://youtu.be/NRmhUy1ZTRU
• My grandpa was a Mason, so I joined the lodge (25:53): https://youtu.be/U4bEeBRI2hw
• The Franklin scandal and how the comics began (48:43): https://youtu.be/xVTLwGBafmM
• The Woodpecker Grid (1:22:55): https://youtu.be/PHM3nKjgWMQ
• Project Montauk and Stranger Things (1:53:33): https://youtu.be/vOsZCq4y3Xk

More with Thomas Paranoid American
• Genesis Book Review with Thomas (Sep 24): https://youtu.be/RXj_sLODpE8
• Paranoid American Book Review, Part 1: https://youtu.be/KOa-3Qz9now
• Paranoid American Book Review, Part 2: https://youtu.be/KMwmp6U-Pps
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:51 How Do You Explain It to Normal People?
7:03 Political Kayfabe
10:07 Who Is Ultimately Behind It?
14:38 What Is an Egregore?
15:45 How Paranoid American Started at Disney
22:42 Joining the Masons
25:53 My Grandpa Was a Mason
30:49 Operative vs Speculative Masons
35:25 Inside the Lodge
38:06 Hierarchy vs Circular Authority (Ephesians 4, Verse 11)
40:08 Is a 33rd Degree Mason Higher?
47:32 Lawrence King and the Franklin Scandal
52:45 Monsters, Inc. and Adrenochrome
55:04 Abstain From Blood (Acts 15, Verse 20)
1:00:15 The Franklin Cover-Up
1:03:50 "It's Just a Comic Book"
1:07:32 Time Samplers and Jekyll Island
1:19:26 What Money Can't Buy (Acts 8, Verses 18-20)
1:22:55 The Woodpecker Grid
1:26:31 Pitching the Cartoon in Hollywood
1:31:50 A $70,000 Pilot Offer
1:37:28 Nostalgia as a Delivery System
1:41:07 Was Walt Disney an Occultist?
1:44:49 The Bambi Effect
1:47:03 Grimm Fairy Tales
1:52:55 Project Montauk and Stranger Things
1:59:12 Reading the Bible Four Times in Confinement
2:01:33 Closing Prayer

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