37: “The test of time”, with special guest Ellen Shapiro

Ellen Shapiro joins John to talk about all sorts of automated testing — unit tests, integration tests, UI test, you name it! The two also discuss Ellen's recent adventures into Kotlin and whether Kotlin Native could become a nice cross-platform solution for mobile apps.

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• Ellen on Twitter
• John on Twitter
• Hum
• Ellen's "Outside-in" talk from UIKonf 2016
• Running UI Tests on iOS With Ludicrous Speed
• UI testing analytics code in Swift
• KIF
• Jake Wharton's whitepaper on Kotlin for Android
• Kotlin Native
• Ellen's Kotlin Native test
• Bakken & Bæck's Kotlin Native test
• What's New in Testing - WWDC 2018
• Ellen's conference talks
• Intro and outro music by Dariusz Dziuk