22: Journalist Reacts to Olivia Rodrigo's NYTimes Interview

Olivia Rodrigo finally sat down for her first real podcast interview — and she had a lot to say. In this emergency reaction, I break down her NYTimes PopCast conversation about new album You Seem Pretty Sad for a Girl So in Love, the Taylor Swift feud that won't die, and the moment she bristled at being called the villain. 

Olivia gets candid about songwriting credits, the "frost" with Taylor, why she's stopped caring about internet conspiracies, and the baby doll dress controversy that had Gen Z in a chokehold. I bring my journalist lens to the parts the hosts missed — and the parts Olivia clearly didn't want to touch.