Why we need to stop calling as-a-service group takedowns "takedowns"

Hazel Burton and Thorsten Rosendahl join Jon Munshaw on this week's episode to discuss the problem with threat actor "hydras." They recently wrote about the topic for the Talos blog, highlighting how law enforcement takedowns of these groups are closer to just disruptions or setbacks for these massive actors. They talk about what really needs to be done to stop ransomware actors and why RaaS is a breeding ground for "hydras."