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It's Time for the VPN Industry to Innovate (Obscura Interview)

1 tim 9 min17 januari 2026

You don't have to trust Obscura—you just have to trust that not both Obscura and Mullvad are compromised. Henry sat down with Carl, former Bitcoin Core developer and founder of Obscura VPN, to discuss how it's the first VPN that mathematically can't log your activity, what makes it censorship-resistant against networks like the Great Firewall, and what it really means to build privacy that's more than "a pinky promise."


🔗 LINKS

  • Obscura: https://obscura.net
  • GitHub: https://github.com/Sovereign-Engineering/obscuravpn-client
  • Trust, 2-Party Relays, and QUIC: https://obscura.net/blog/bootstrapping-trust/
  • Mullvad: https://mullvad.net


⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

0:00:00 INTRO

00:01:50 CARL'S BACKGROUND

00:10:47 APPLE'S PRIVATE RELAY

00:17:11 TRUSTLESS MODELS

00:19:05 MULTI-PARTY RELAY PARTNERSHIP

00:21:39 TRADITIONAL MULTI-HOP

00:23:39 CENSORSHIP RESISTANCE

00:27:33 MULLVAD VS. OBSCURA TRAFFIC

00:29:35 EXIT IP

00:30:18 BLOCKS, CAPTCHA, & SPLIT TUNNELING

00:31:16 CUSTOM DNS

00:32:41 PARTNERING WITH MULLVAD

00:36:05 OBSCURA VS. PRIVATE RELAY

00:37:10 OBSCURA VS. MULLVAD

00:38:33 OBSCURA VS. DECENTRALIZED VPNS

00:40:57 OBSCURA VS. TOR

00:41:58 REPRODUCIBLE BUILDS

00:50:23 CLIENTS & DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE

00:55:24 SPEED

00:59:06 DEFAULTS VS. CUSTOMIZATION

01:00:48 PRICING

01:02:43 OPEN SOURCE

01:03:34 THE OBSCURA TEAM

01:05:39 THOUGHTS ON THE VPN INDUSTRY

01:07:49 OUTRO


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