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1KHO 653: Gain Deeper Relationships Through Dependence on Others | Kevan Chandler and Tommy Shelton, The Hospitality of Need

1 tim 12 min18 december 2025

What if the deepest friendships aren’t built on independence—but on dependence done with dignity? In this unforgettable conversation, Ginny Yurich sits down with Kevan Chandler (living with spinal muscular atrophy) and pastor Tommy Shelton to talk about their new book, The Hospitality of Need—and the startling idea that letting people help you can be a form of generosity. Kevan’s life is filled with “weirdly clear needs,” and he shares how friends who volunteer to help him each morning don’t experience it as a burden, but as a gift: a predictable rhythm of brotherhood, trust, and real presence in a distracted world.

Together, they reframe hospitality as more than hosting—it’s also showing up to be fed, allowing others to step into purpose, and creating communities where people don’t have to pretend they’re fine. From the friends who carried Kevan across Europe (and now help other families adventure through We Carry Kevan) to the biblical picture of friends lowering a man through a roof to meet Jesus, this episode will leave listeners asking a brave, practical question: What if my needs could become a doorway to love rather than something to hide?

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