Caroline Wong--The AI Cybersecurity Handbook

AI is multiplying the amount of software organizations produce, but security teams are not multiplying with it. Caroline Wong, author of The AI Cybersecurity Handbook and Chief Strategy Officer at Axari, explains how AppSec must change when agents generate code, make decisions, and assemble systems at machine speed. She and the hosts examine the growing backlog, the need for architecture and visibility, and why trust must be evaluated through accuracy, reliability, explainability, and accountability. Caroline also describes AI-augmented security teams as a practical response to constrained headcount and budgets. The conversation closes on preserving foundational knowledge, identifying roles most likely to change, and preparing now for a future that is arriving faster than traditional security programs can absorb.

Connect with Caroline Wong:
→ Caroline Wong on LinkedIn
→ Axari

Mentioned in this episode:
→ The AI Cybersecurity Handbook
→ Security Metrics: A Beginner's Guide
→ Cobalt
→ BSIMM
→ PCI DSS
→ ChatGPT

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Chapters:
00:00 Meet Caroline Wong
02:52 Competitive jiu-jitsu away from the screen
05:41 Learning through discomfort and failure
09:01 Writing The AI Cybersecurity Handbook
11:41 Why the AI shift is different
14:05 How AI-generated code changes AppSec
15:55 The security backlog grows faster
19:14 Do we need to re-architect everything?
21:34 Keeping visibility into agent-built systems
25:45 Trusting AI in security work
27:12 Criteria for evaluating trust
29:58 Explainability and losing foundational knowledge
34:00 AI-augmented security teams
36:25 Doing more with fewer people and dollars
39:24 Understand how the technology works
40:55 Which security roles change first?
43:36 Caroline's key takeaway
44:16 Closing thoughts