Art Bell opens with a demonstration of long delayed echoes, a baffling ham radio phenomenon where transmitted signals return seconds later in apparent violation of physics. He plays audio recordings captured by operators in Washington and Arizona, walks through the science of radio propagation, and invites listeners to help explain what no physicist yet can. Callers weigh in on topics from Lake Vostok anomalies to the Arizona mass sighting. Dr. Roger Leir joins to discuss his surgical removal… Full show notes & guests: https://artbellarchive.org/episode/august-29-2004-varginha-ufo-case-dr-roger-leir
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