The Ben & Jamesa Podcast: Conversations About Connection

Ep. 135: Disruption and A Real Pain

43 min • 30 april 2025

 In today’s episode, Ben and Jamesa reflect on the recent blackout in Portugal and what it revealed about control, flexibility, and unexpected stillness. They also dive into insights sparked by the film A Real Pain, exploring themes of grief, family dynamics, mental health, and the lifelong practice of learning to get along. It’s a conversation about disruption, connection, and what we carry with us—whether the lights are on or not. 

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