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The Blinding Talent Music Industry Podcast with Mark Adams

I Worked With Michael Jackson… He Wasn’t What You Think

1 tim 6 min13 april 2026

In this episode of the Blinding Talent Music Industry Podcast, Mark Adams sits down with Judd Lander - a true industry insider whose career spans over six decades of music history.


From the Cavern Club in Liverpool to working with ABBA, Culture Club, Spice Girls, Annie Lennox, Prince and more, Judd has been part of some of the most iconic moments in music - often by accident, always by instinct.


From creating the harmonica on Karma Chameleon in under 30 minutes…to working behind the scenes at the BRIT Awards for over 20 years… to navigating the shift from the 60s music scene to today’s AI-driven industry… This is a rare, honest perspective on how the music industry really works - from someone who’s lived it.


IN THIS EPISODE
  • How The Beatles inspired Judd’s journey into music
  • The story behind Karma Chameleon (and how quickly it came together)
  • What artists like Michael Jackson, ABBA and Prince were really like behind the scenes
  • Inside the BRIT Awards and capturing iconic moments
  • The evolution of PR, radio and artist development
  • The reality of being an artist in today’s landscape
  • AI, streaming and the future of music

KEY MOMENTS

1:14 – From The Beatles to Ed Sheeran: Judd’s career journey

2:00 – Liverpool, The Cavern Club & early beginnings

11:30 – First encounters with The Beatles

22:00 – The Karma Chameleon story (created in minutes)

25:40 – Spice Girls studio moment

30:00 – 21 years inside The BRIT Awards

32:00 – Amy Winehouse moment

36:30 – Prince & what makes a true musician

38:00 – What Michael Jackson was really like

42:00 – ABBA: the reality behind the hits

49:00 – AI in music: opportunity vs risk

1:00:10 – The Jeff Beck story


WHY THIS MATTERS

If you're an artist, manager, or building a career in music, this episode gives you something rare:

→ Perspective across decades

→ Real industry insight (not theory)

→ A clearer understanding of what actually builds careers


ABOUT BLINDING TALENT

Blinding Talent helps artists grow with clarity, not noise.

Social • Spotify • Strategy • Management


Built on over two decades at the coalface of the music industry.

👉 Learn more: www.blindingtalent.com


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