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The Brave Technologist

AI Safety, Scam Tactics and Threat Mitigation

35 min • 13 augusti 2025

Assaf Kipnis, AI safety (intel and investigation) at ElevenLabs, discusses the evolving landscape of online safety, the sophisticated tactics of threat actors, and the role of regulation in shaping tech company responses. He also discusses the need for accountability in both tech companies and regulatory bodies to enhance safety and security in the digital space. Key Takeaways: 

  • New tactics and scams threat actors are using, and the effectiveness of measures like age verification and red teaming

  • Limitations faced by tech companies in combating online safety issues, and the challenges of maintaining online safety at scale

  • The role of law enforcement and regulation in pressuring companies, platforms, and teams to improve online safety

Guest Bio: Assaf Kipnis is an AI safety investigator with over a decade of experience at companies like LinkedIn, Facebook, and Google. Now at ElevenLabs, he builds systems to uncover and respond to emerging threats in generative AI, focusing on the intersection of security, abuse prevention, and human impact.

Assaf is known for making sense of complex, messy problems, combining deep investigation with storytelling to drive action. He’s guided by values like curiosity, care, and doing the right thing, and is passionate about reclaiming technology as a force for good. He strives to create environments where people feel safe, seen, and valued.

Outside of work, he’s a parent, systems thinker, and mentor who believes the best solutions start with asking the right questions—and remembering to stay human.

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About this Show:

The Brave Technologist is here to shed light on the opportunities and challenges of emerging tech. To make it digestible, less scary, and more approachable for all!

Join us as we embark on a mission to demystify artificial intelligence, challenge the status quo, and empower everyday people to embrace the digital revolution. Whether you're a tech enthusiast, a curious mind, or an industry professional, this podcast invites you to join the conversation and explore the future of AI together.

The Brave Technologist Podcast is hosted by Luke Mulks, VP Business Operations at Brave Software—makers of the privacy-respecting Brave browser and Search engine, and now powering AI everywhere with the Brave Search API.

Music by: Ari Dvorin

Produced by: Sam Laliberte

 

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