Alastair Campbell on being a ‘pro-faith atheist’

“We don’t do God,” the former government communications director Alastair Campbell once told an American reporter who asked Tony Blair about religion. The phrase has come to signify the idea that, in the UK, religion should be kept out of public life. On the podcast this week, staff writer James Macintyre sits down with Alastair Campbell at his home in north London to talk about his enduring interest in faith. Their conversation covers: • What he meant by saying “We don’t do God.” • Why he is proud to be a “pro-faith atheist” • His private Bible studies with the then Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, at Lambeth Palace • Pope Leo XIV’s encyclical on humanity and AI, Magnifica Humanitas Today, Campbell remains a well-known public figure. He co-presents the hugely popular podcast The Rest is Politics, is Editor-at-Large of The New World, and campaigns on mental health. He is the author of a number of books, which include: • But What Can I Do? Why politics has gone wrong and how you can help fix it (Penguin, 2023). • Living Better: How I learned to survive depression (John Murray, 2020) • Eight volumes of Diaries about is time working in government Stories mentioned in the podcast: • ‘I was probably the only atheist in the room’: Alastair Campbell on Bible studies with Justin Welby: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/11-september/news/uk/i-was-probably-the-only-atheist-in-the-room-alastair-campbell-on-bible-studies-with-justin-welby • Churches marking 25 years since 9/11: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/11-september/news/world/churches-marking-25-years-since-911 • Education: Is AI a threat or an opportunity for young people?https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2026/11-september/features/features/education-is-ai-a-threat-or-an-opportunity-for-young-people Music for the podcast is by Twisterium. Picture credit: Alamy Try 10 issues of the Church Times for £10 or get two months access to our website and apps, also for £10. Go to www.churchtimes.co.uk/new-reader