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Katherine Clark names the Democrats’ price to save Kevin McCarthy

32 min•22 september 2023

After losing a series of votes this week to avoid a government shutdown, Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy has effectively lost his majority. On this episode of Playbook Deep Dive, host and Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza asks the number two Democratic leader in the House, Minority Whip Katherine Clark, what price McCarthy will have to pay for Democrats to lend their votes to passing a CR and fending-off a potential challenge to his speakership.

Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.
Katherine Clark is the House Minority Whip and the representative for Massachusetts's 5th district.
Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio. 
Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio.

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