The Decision Lab Podcast

Ep. 30: Can You Hack Safety? w/ Dr. David Rabin

92 min • 6 maj 2025
In Today’s Episode: Can You Hack Safety? Join us as we talk with Dr. David Rabin, a board-certified psychiatrist, neuroscientist, and co-founder of Apollo Neuro, who shares his insights on how safety — not just therapy or medication — may be the foundational key to healing trauma and optimizing performance. Key Takeaways from Today’s Episode: -How vibration, touch, and sound can activate the vagus nerve and create instant calm -Why the ability to feel safe may determine whether stress leads to growth or disease -The science behind MDMA-assisted therapy, belief as biology, and reprogramming the epigenetic effects of trauma Questions We Answer in This Episode: -Can technology help you feel safe in your body? -What actually changes in the brain during a psychedelic experience? -Does the body really keep the score — and can we rewrite it? (0:00) Introduction to Dr. David Rabin and Apollo Neuro (1:00) Dr. Rabin's early experiences with vivid dreams and science (4:23) The connection between stress, performance, and health (6:14) Discovery and benefits of psychedelic-assisted therapy (8:56) Development of Apollo Neuro and overcoming personal challenges (13:52) The power of belief in personal growth and psychedelic therapy (21:12) Therapeutic vs. recreational psychedelics and self energy (25:05) The vagus nerve's role in touch, safety, and trauma (33:26) Trauma, epigenetic changes, and reversibility (38:44) Apollo Neuro: Introduction and benefits (40:06) The creation of Apollo Neuro and rhythm's importance (44:03) Apollo Neuro's ideal customer and benefits for kids and teens (45:55) Enhancing sleep with Apollo Neuro and SmartVibes AI (48:53) Research claims and clinical trials of Apollo Neuro (50:44) Ensuring scientific validity and avoiding conflicts of interest (52:22) Collaboration with universities and the Oura Ring study (57:32) Science and consumer understanding in the wellness industry (1:00:01) Responsible claims and ongoing research in the wellness field (1:02:11) Transparency, FDA clearance, and future goals for Apollo (1:07:01) Integrating sleep and smart vibes in future Apollo products (1:11:42) Health and wellness concerns: Smartphones and intentional tech use (1:15:46) Lightning Lab: Quick Q&A with Dr. Rabin (1:18:07) Dr. Rabin's perspective on leading a good life (1:21:06) Dr. Rabin's question for the next guest (1:23:23) Focus on addiction and substance use disorder (1:26:29) Addressing primary addictions with Apollo technology (1:27:40) Closing thoughts and where to find

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