Between Two Kingdoms—Michael Bird: The role of the Church in the State

Rob and Vinnie continue their series on Church Health, discussing Christians and Politics. 

In this special episode, the DT Pod replays a livestream from April 2024 with preeminent NT scholar, Dr. Michael Bird. In this interview, they discusses his book, "Jesus and the Powers." Explore the dynamic relationship between the church and the state, delving into timely insights on faith and governance. With Bird's expertise and prolific authorship, this conversation promises to offer illuminating perspectives on the role of the church in contemporary society. 

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Great Resources on the topic of Creating Healthy Churches

Jesus and the Powers: Christian Political Witness in an Age of Totalitarian Terror and Dysfunctional Democracies (NT Wright & Michael Bird)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310162246/ref=mes-dp?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=3sqJa&content-id=amzn1.sym.9986c774-1242-403d-ae9e-f3251eb87773&pf_rd_p=9986c774-1242-403d-ae9e-f3251eb87773&pf_rd_r=5B404QG2HGSM58Z5NB33&pd_rd_wg=PKnk3&pd_rd_r=cbfe0eff-c830-4100-b1cf-4be3b87aab21

Religious Freedom in a Secular Age: A Christian Case for Liberty, Equality, and Secular Government (Michael Bird)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310538882/ref=mes-dp?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=tMMGN&content-id=amzn1.sym.9986c774-1242-403d-ae9e-f3251eb87773&pf_rd_p=9986c774-1242-403d-ae9e-f3251eb87773&pf_rd_r=RXWQBMVC2Q6JNR9BPQSG&pd_rd_wg=nvqj3&pd_rd_r=1b4cde0b-27a7-46c3-8a49-26bd3e5397a7

A Church Called Tov (Scot McKnight)

https://www.amazon.com/Church-Called-Tov-Goodness-Promotes/dp/1496446003/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4lBAQzf3oJglpTj_7R8NbAeOg0H2oH4CTgx81Cm9okZZVtD9VFcS1uSUfVV2EQm5KZL1himBpHsyFB4D_Gifo4cf1QusTB-POg2TVGG7LdGmQvQa0IB928VE-Lzebn0QaYbWTVGVFLpXeUIBI_xAwisMWdvmpzjWJxaEPeX_KDzkLcEidFqxV9x2KN137nu9_VqW_lpT5_tSt6oq8-Jdy9yqaU0SHRxzumNuhx47RWQ.FqeuaDuA2RxUSi8NLD1Eu9aVNCvxijZDHQxchJMDJm0&qid=1772398542&sr=8-1

Something's Not Right: Decoding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse--and Freeing Yourself from Its Power (Wade Mullens)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1496444701/ref=mes-dp?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=DfllH&content-id=amzn1.sym.476b1b7d-c787-4147-8a3c-fdef209103a1&pf_rd_p=476b1b7d-c787-4147-8a3c-fdef209103a1&pf_rd_r=0KK0SC6CEWNJ2Q64975X&pd_rd_wg=GCNhP&pd_rd_r=79c691b9-0dac-456b-bda2-afdb8d5268e5

When Narcissism Comes to Church (Chuck DeGroat)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1514005093/ref=mes-dp?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=zdSwU&content-id=amzn1.sym.476b1b7d-c787-4147-8a3c-fdef209103a1&pf_rd_p=476b1b7d-c787-4147-8a3c-fdef209103a1&pf_rd_r=WKKWWGSF6Y2GYRHQ8926&pd_rd_wg=mFZQA&pd_rd_r=a6182de3-e16f-4416-9ef7-e30aa5043369

When the Church Harms God’s People (Diane Langberg)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1587436450/ref=mes-dp?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=uVPPK&content-id=amzn1.sym.476b1b7d-c787-4147-8a3c-fdef209103a1&pf_rd_p=476b1b7d-c787-4147-8a3c-fdef209103a1&pf_rd_r=CAM1FBFN0J7Y0RS0HF0V&pd_rd_wg=KaJ0d&pd_rd_r=a0246e35-7d3f-4feb-89db-facae6fa4a8a

The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse (David Johnson & Jeff VanVonderen)

https://www.amazon.com/Subtle-Power-Spiritual-Abuse-Manipulation/dp/0764201379/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.gamBi63TclRIVPBxTv-pRuqjLaCH6zHxJg7mfafeeNQBvHmjWjEtqqHFSIN_1Lj7VWyTfWk3PpybZzNXngB61PQXnxSnfqwfEiGYLvolpnFi8EasbYpnJqtfKUbkk1ARz_KF4VVFTdbEaBTGSwwcfvaeU3_MIi3li7ZZ6--eqBOXWaM4f-sakjMeasOH23AhwB4GO4BQg8ffW7LrDWqxeqz_wcKGtWdyDGGWo8G8ixw.QTPRygGaPdlSZ2GR8GtEyG3rlxVNoI9q-tRr0tjybsI&qid=1773085465&sr=1-1

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