#3: Lars Kristian Trellevik on Systems Thinking, Deep Ecology and the Norwegian Context

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Lars Kristian Trellevik, Chief Operations and Sustainability Officer at Adepth Minerals, speaks with Eric about the complexities and challenges of exploring and potentially mining the deep sea. They discuss Trellevik's long experience of deep sea operations, the philosophical underpinnings of Deep Ecology, and the importance of systems thinking in addressing the energy transition. Lars Kristian also explores his first hand experience in the polarized debate surrounding deep sea mining, the precautionary principle, and the need for responsible research and regulation. Trellevik emphasizes the importance of understanding the broader context of deep sea mining and the misconceptions that often arise in public discourse.

Keep up with Lars Kristian on LinkedIn and read the publications discussed at his ResearchGate page and his Blog “Deep-Sea Minerals: On Hubris, Morality and Asymmetric Uncertainty”

Time stamps

* 02:08 The Philosophy of Deep Ecology and its Relevance

* 05:36 Systems Thinking and Trade-offs in Energy Transition

* 12:42 The Polarized Debate on Deep Sea Mining

* 19:01 Uncertainty and the Precautionary Principle in Deep Sea Mining

* 36:53 Exploring ADEPTH's Focus on Deep Sea Minerals

* 41:54 Navigating the Licensing Process for Deep Sea Mining

* 48:01 Understanding Public Perception and Trust in Government

* 57:37 Addressing Misconceptions in Deep Sea Mining

* 01:05:19 Critiquing the Dark Oxygen Hypothesis

Theme music Tamarack by Jesse Matas

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