Facing the Unseen: Why Discipleship Must Go Beneath the Surface

Too often, we lead others while unaware of the emotional baggage we carry. In this episode, I share why genuine discipleship must go beneath the surface—into the depths of our emotional world and the generational patterns shaping us.

Using the haunting story of Nathan Price from The Poisonwood Bible, I reflect on my own early years of Christian leadership—driven, sincere, but stuck. Like many pastors, I loved Scripture and ministry, yet avoided the inner work required for lasting transformation.

In this second mark of an Emotionally Healthy Culture, I unpack how we follow Jesus into beneath-the-surface discipleship—marked by emotional honesty and breaking generational patterns that bind us.

You'll hear:

• How unprocessed pain sabotages leadership

• Why your family of origin disciples you more than you think

• Practical questions to begin your own journey inward

This isn't just another leadership podcast. It's a call to reclaim the radical discipleship of Jesus—starting from within.

A leadership formation intensive for pastors and leaders. Grow in practical EHD skills such as incarnational listening, clean fighting, and understanding your family of origin to build honest, life-giving relationships rooted in the love of Jesus.

Learn more about the EH Global Leader Conference 2026: emotionallyhealthy.org/conference