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The Grief and Grounding of a Climate Scientist with Dr. Peter Kalmus

56 min•25 april 2026

In this conversation, Victoria Loorz speaks with Dr. Peter Kalmus, astrophysicist-turned-climate scientist, NASA researcher, author, and activist. Peter's radical integrity has taken him from searching for gravitational waves to growing his own food, refusing to fly for twelve years, and chaining himself to doors in acts of civil disobedience.


Together, they explore the layers of grief that come with truly loving a planet in crisis and the spiritual disconnection underlying ecological destruction. What does it mean to love the planet not as a cause but as a being? What might it look like to move from the urgency of fixing into the slower, harder work of reconnection? The conversation also wanders into meditation, ego death, the empathy required to grieve a forest, and the strange fertility of not knowing — inviting us to consider that staying in the unknowing may itself be a spiritual practice. This conversation is for anyone sitting with the unknowing of this moment, and wondering if that might, somehow, be exactly where they need to be.


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Timestamps:

  • 00:00 — Introduction
  • 05:16 — Interview Begins
  • 09:07 — The Choice To Not Fly
  • 12:50 — Integrity Through Life Experiment
  • 15:54 — Layers of Integrity Under Systems
  • 17:11 — Civil Disobedience
  • 22:33 — Unmoored
  • 23:52 — The Discipline of Meditation
  • 26:09 — Disconnection Belongs In The Cycle
  • 28:12 — The Holy Local Tribe
  • 30:20 — Aging Into Eldership
  • 33:18 — Grounding Practices
  • 39:33 — Loving Kindness For Yourself
  • 42:57 — Trail Encounter with the Universe
  • 45:36 — Encounter with Ego Death
  • 48:51 — Expansive Meditation Encounter
  • 53:08 — Wild Invitation
  • 54:50 — Credits

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