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#382 Chris Whalen: Private Credit's "Slow Motion Train Wreck" & The Warning Signs for a 2028 Housing Reset

34 min27 juni 2026

Chris Whalen joins Julia La Roche on this week's episode of "The Wrap with Chris Whalen" to break down what he calls a "slow motion train wreck" in private credit, where public and private funds alike are getting hammered with redemption requests just as the firms behind them sit on impaired assets like DSCR business-purpose loans. Whalen argues we're living through a replay of 2005 — high tide before the crack — and predicts a housing reset by 2027-2028 ("misery on the eights"), with home prices falling 10-20% and recent borrowers landing underwater. Along the way he covers double-digit inflation driven by energy supply shocks from the Strait of Hormuz, why Chair Warsh can't slow-walk rate hikes, the volatility added by agentic AI trading and ETFs, his long-term bull case for gold and silver, the unwinding of Wall Street's crypto trade, the futility of Mamdani's NYC rent freeze, and viewer questions on inflation measurement and Annaly's common vs. preferred shares.

 

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The Institutional Risk Analyst: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/ 

The Wrap: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/post/theira861

Fred Ramberg interview: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/post/theira860

Signed copy of Seeing Around Corners: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/shop

Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/rcwhalen    


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Timestamps:

00:00 — Intro

01:09 — Private credit: the "slow motion train wreck" and redemptions

02:24 — Rates higher-for-longer, double-digit inflation & the Strait of Hormuz

04:02 — The hidden cost of war and inflation as a tax

05:33 — Private credit shops buying insurers & DSCR loans

06:46 — "It's 2005 again" and the road to misery on the eights

07:46 — Signposts: institutional fraud in business-purpose loans

08:45 — What a DSCR loan is vs. a residential mortgage

11:55 — The private credit gates connection

12:32 — Predicting the 2028 housing reset & price declines

14:52 — How rising prices have masked defaults

15:27 — A 10-20% home price reset explained

15:46 — Which markets crack first (Florida, Miami, blue-state Northeast)

17:10 — Mom-and-pop investors and fix-and-flips

17:49 — Advice for homebuyers: stay below the conforming limit

18:42 — AI & semiconductor stock volatility

19:15 — Agentic trading bots and market manipulation

20:35 — Precious metals: gold below 4,000, silver near 57

22:37 — PCE data, sticky inflation & the gold-silver case

23:13 — Crypto falling apart, MicroStrategy & BlackRock selling

24:33 — CME suing over perps (perpetual futures)

25:34 — The NYC rent freeze / Mamdani hot take

26:49 — Viewer mail: changing the definition of inflation

28:20 — Viewer mail: is the debasement trade over?

29:08 — Viewer mail: Annaly common vs. preferred

31:03 — What's ahead next week (plus World Cup talk)

32:46 — Wrap-up

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