October 24, 2025

Having done this show for a full year, it means we have some traditions now—and the first one we ever set up, really, was having Ryan Chapman (The Audacity, Riots I Have Known) to join Drew for a chat about the year's Booker Prize shortlist in advance of his big piece forthcoming in the Winter Issue of the Sewanee Review (SUBSCRIBE!)... so, that's basically this episode! They did it again, again recorded live at Rough Draft Bar & Books in Kingston, NY. Tune in for their predictions on the winner, their feelings about the year in fiction, their feelings about the Booker jury's feelings about the year in fiction, and ambient coffee-shop ASMR in the background! Plus, a voicemail from Nicole Brinkley about why we should bring back the mass-market paperback.

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