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China’s Engineering State vs. America’s Lawyerly Society (w/Dan Wang)

1 tim 10 min29 april 2026

Dan Wang, author of Breakneck, breaks down the divide between China’s “engineering state” and America’s “lawyerly society” and what that means for the future of U.S.-China competition.

Wang joined Jake and Jon before a live audience at the Endless Frontiers conference in Austin, Texas.

In this episode:

- Why China builds at scale and why the U.S. often struggles to keep up

- The strengths and limits of China’s model, from manufacturing to social policy

- A closer look at Xi Jinping’s leadership and decision-making

- Why “process knowledge” is key to rebuilding American capacity


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