Naomi Klein discusses the dangers of data centres, Steve Bannon’s hip hop musical and why our tech overlords want to be edgelords

Louis sits down with writer, activist and filmmaker Naomi Klein. They discuss Steve Bannon’s hip hop musical, why data centres are so dangerous, and the tech overlords/edgelords that inspired her latest book, End Times Fascism.  

 

Warnings: Strong language and adult themes.  

 

Links/Attachments: 

 

Book: End Times Fascism, Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor (2026) 

https://naomiklein.org/end-times-fascism/  

 

Book: Doppelganger, Naomi Klein (2023) 

https://naomiklein.org/doppelganger/  

 

Interview: The full-length interview with Elon Musk, The Economist (2026) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuoqKYxDHVc  

 

Play: The Thing I Am, Steve Bannon (1996-1997) 

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/17/opinion/sunday/steve-bannon-hip-hop-shakespeare-rewrite-coriolanus.html  

 

Podcast: Bannon’s WarRoom (2019-present) 

https://open.spotify.com/show/0WyF2LaTcrpWfrTIeKjs1L  

 

Book: No Logo, Naomi Klein (1999) 

https://naomiklein.org/no-logo/  

 
Song: Heart of Glass, Blondie (1979) 

https://open.spotify.com/track/4v2rkl1mC3zVAz0nXMx9r4  

 

Documentary: Bowling for Columbine (2002) 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0310793/  

 

Credits: 

Producer: Tom Fuller 

Senior Assistant Producer: Maisie Ellen Williams  

Junior Production Manager: Rosie Pender 

Production Executive: Francesca Bassett 

Original Music: Miguel D’Oliveira 

Video Editor: Scott Edwards 

Audio Editor: Tom Guest 

Series Producer: Millie Chu 

Executive Producer: Arron Fellows 

 

A Mindhouse Studios Production for Spotify. 

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