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666: Is wellness culture making us less healthy? | Ezekiel J. Emanuel, MD, PhD, MsC

42 min•13 september 2026

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“I don't need to track it. I just listen to my body,” says Ezekiel J. Emanuel, M.D., Ph.D., Ms.C. 


Dr. Emanuel is an oncologist and world leader in health policy and bioethics. He is the Vice Provost for Global Initiatives at the University of Pennsylvania, and holds appointments in the Department of Medical Ethics and Health Policy in the Perelman School of Medicine and the Department of Health Care Management in the Wharton School. He is Special Advisor to the Director General of the WHO, Senior Fellow at the Center for American Progress, and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He was founding chair of the Department of Bioethics at the NIH. He served as a Special Advisor on Health Policy to the Director of the Office of Management and Budget and National Economic Council. In this role, he was instrumental in drafting the Affordable Care Act. He served on the Biden-Harris Transition Covid Advisory Board. Dr. Emanuel is the most widely cited bioethicist in history with over 350 publications. He has authored or edited 16 books. His newest book, Eat Your Ice Cream, is out now. 


00:00 - When tracking our health goes overboard

06:19 - The health markers worth testing

08:03 - Daily nutrition habits

09:34 - What it means to “eat your ice cream”

14:15 - The importance of social connection

19:12 - Why willpower fails & habits win

24:47 - Everest, introverts, & grip strength

27:52 - How purpose is linked to health

31:06 - Why & how the Emanuel brothers succeeded 

35:21 - Rethinking retirement for brain health

36:42 - Age-old health wins (& that’s a relief)

40:10 - Favorite ice cream shops


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For more about Emanuel, visit his website: https://www.ezekielemanuel.com/ 

Buy Eat Your Ice Cream here: https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Your-Ice-Cream-Healthy/dp/1324117532/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?tag=mind0a3-20 

Find our episode on the rabbit cholesterol here: https://youtu.be/er3k40nlCh8?si=MxeG7IxEVnirxIoX


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