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The Most Interesting Thing in AI

AI in Flight - with Nicholas Thompson, Tory Bruno and Joe Schurman

39 min12 november 2025

The space race has gone private, and in this new world, efficiency is key. United Launch Alliance CEO Tory Bruno explains how a legacy rocket maker remade itself to compete in an industry full of startups. From load analysis and low-earth-orbit satellite monitoring to rockets with autonomous flight systems, Bruno unpacks what happens when machine learning meets computational fluid dynamics in our atmosphere. Plus, why AI might be critical to landing  a man on Mars—and getting them home alive.


(00:00) Introduction

(01:38) From backyard rockets to Boeing and Lockheed (Tory Bruno)

(03:58) Transforming ULA for a new space race

(06:09) The physics of launch: energy, precision, and peril

(08:41) Reprogramming flight paths with AI

(10:55) The coming age of autonomous and reusable rockets

(16:27) When we'll really send humans to Mars—and bring them back

(19:36) How AI could help us find, and talk to, alien life

(29:20) AI in the space economy (Joe Schurman)

(34:16) The $2 trillion future of space

(37:51) The most interesting way Joe has used AI


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