Episode 23: Sarah Engels 🇩🇪 & Sal Da Vinci 🇮🇹 |

Two stars of this year's 2026 Grand Final join the podcast for a catch-up!

First, Germany's Sarah Engels returns to talk about musicals, motherhood, and her song Fire.

Italian legend Sal Da Vinci also chats to Steve about his song Per Sempre Si, the love he had for his home city of Naples and why food means family.

The Official Eurovision Song Contest Podcast is produced and presented for the EBU by Steve Holden.

The music is composed by Will Kitchener. Design by Ángela Espejo & Chris Fox.

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