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#173 - Liberman - We’re Training AI to Get Rid Of Us

2 tim 2 min8 maj 2026

Two brothers who escaped Russia say we have 2 years before AI replaces us - and we're paying the corporations building it.


Daniil & David Liberman sold their first company to Snapchat. Now they're racing to build a decentralised alternative to OpenAI and Google before the window closes. They explain why centralised AI ends in a two-tier world - a small elite with access, and the rest of us as "moving parts" - and why the next 24 months decide which path we take.


In this episode:

→ Why you can't opt out of AI and stay competitive

→ The recursive loop: AI is now writing AI

→ Why the kill switch won't work

→ What they saw inside Russia in 2008 that's happening now with AI

→ The darkest scenario they almost didn't want to say out loud


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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:00 - AI & Human Freedom

00:01:51 - Invisible Slavery

00:05:00 - Bitcoin vs AI Centralisation

00:10:25 - AI Addiction Begins

00:14:27 - The End Of Upward Mobility

00:17:33 - The Beautiful AI Future

00:23:16 - Why Monopolies Win

00:32:36 - Inflation, AI & Collapse

00:45:16 - Bitcoin As AI Blueprint

01:01:45 - The Mythos Fear

01:17:48 - “One Year Left”

01:43:05 - The Darkest Scenario

01:58:13 - Racing Towards The Wall


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