A deep dive into the Vatican conclave

A year ago, more than a hundred cardinals were deep in conversation, even a little conspiratorial. 

They’d just buried their beloved Pope Francis. 

Now they had to choose a successor to lead 1.4 billion Catholics. But forces outside the church were also trying to shape the result of the conclave. 

In a new book, The Election of Pope Leo XIV: The Last Surprise of Pope Francis, we learn about some the extraordinary planning … and plotting. 

GUESTS:

• Co-Authors and veteran Vatican reporters Gerard O’Connell and Elisabetta Pique