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The Systems Engineering Podcast

Jolly Pradhan Interview - Stop Building the Wrong Thing: Real B2B Innovation Explained

1 tim 8 min‱11 februari 2026

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00:00:00 Introduction — B2B innovation, building the right thing, notes + Tech Planning Copilot

00:01:32 Jolly Pradhan and End-to-End Innovation Consulting from Idea to Launch

00:03:01 Validating Customer Needs — Avoiding Assumptions & Interviewing Properly

00:06:15 "Build the Right Thing" vs "Build It Right"

00:06:49 Systems Thinking in Practice — Semiconductor Story & Cross-Discipline Integration

00:10:08 De-Risking Early — Stakeholders, Manufacturing Lessons & Avoiding Rework

00:12:49 Prioritisation — Avoiding Paralysis & Focusing on Core Needs

00:15:10 B2B Reality — Integration Over ROI & The Hiring AI Case Study

00:21:24 AI Hype vs Reality — Asking Better Questions & Scaling Responsibly

00:25:49 Scaling & Architecture — Storage, Costs, Requirements Before Build

00:30:12 Lean Startup vs Long-Term Thinking — MVPs, Architecture & Duct-Tape Software

00:38:25 MIT SDM Journey — Career Pivot & Continuous Learning

00:47:14 Innovation Inside Large Firms — Buy-In, Process Mapping & Structured Problem Solving

00:57:55 Final Takeaways — End-to-End Thinking, Assumptions & AI as a Tool

01:06:05 Outro — Links, Notes & Connect with Jolly

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