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"Your business case isn't big enough. The best ones have these two elements" | SAP SuccessFactors' CRO on the revenue-first skills strategy

24 min12 januari 2026

Most companies are using AI to do the same boring work faster. They’re chasing "efficiency" while completely ignoring the fact that the work itself needs to be redesigned. Jan Duthoo (CRO, SAP SuccessFactors) joins us to explain why your business case for skills is likely too small, why L’Oreal and Safran used the exact same technology for opposite reasons, and how to stop "boiling the ocean" with HR tech.

Timestamps:

  • 04:12 – Why SAP’s own revenue grew when they stopped "selling and forgetting."

  • 08:45 – The L’Oreal Paradox: Using skills to decrease internal mobility.

  • 12:30 – The Business Case: Moving from "efficiency" to "work redesign."

  • 18:15 – Why your HR project needs to fail faster (and smaller).

  • 22:40 – The "Car on Steroids": How SAP and TechWolf actually fit together.

  • 28:05 – The COVID Moment: Can CHROs reclaim their seat at the executive table?

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