Heather Gay on Leaving Perfectionism Behind | "Pop Culture Moms"

Today we're sharing a clip from another podcast you might like: "Pop Culture Moms." Andie and Sabrina are toddler moms and best friends of 20 years. Now they’re taking their obsession with TV and movies to the next level by talking to celebrities, writers and fellow “scholars” of pop culture about what they can learn from the fictional moms they love most. In this episode, “Real Housewives” star Heather Gay talks about why she relates to the “Barbie” movie and how she herself broke out of the boxes she was placed in. You can listen to more "Pop Culture Moms" here: link.chtbl.com/popculturemomss1/theview

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