
The Weekend University
Overcoming Immunity to Change - Dr. Robert Kegan & Dr. Lisa Lahey
1 tim 9 min•17 september 2026
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Dr. Robert Kegan and Dr. Lisa Lahey are pioneering developmental psychologists, Harvard faculty members, and co-creators of the Immunity to Change approach. Their groundbreaking work bridges adult development theory with practical methods for sustainable behavioral change in individuals, teams, and organizations.
In this conversation, we explore:
— How the Immunity to Change approach differs from conventional change methods by addressing the hidden mindsets that prevent lasting transformation
— Why our resistance to change is actually an intelligent immune system protecting us from perceived dangers
— The four-column process that reveals the hidden commitments and assumptions keeping us stuck
— How this approach can be applied beyond individual coaching to transform teams and organizations.
And more.
You can learn more about their work, books, and coach certification programs at https://mindsatwork.com.
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Robert Kegan and Lisa Lahey are Harvard-based psychologists and co-founders of Minds at Work, best known for their Immunity to Change framework. Their research and writing, including An Everyone Culture and How the Way We Talk Can Change the Way We Work, help people and organizations uncover hidden commitments that block growth.
You can learn more about their work at https://mindsatwork.com.
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Interview Links:
— Dr. Kegan and Dr. Lahey’s website: https://mindsatwork.com
— Dr. Kegan and Dr. Lahey’s book: https://amzn.to/44wteNV
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