Kastrup vs. Vervaeke: Idealism vs. Naturalism (Round 1 Debate)
3 tim 52 min•1 maj 2021
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Bernardo Kastrup and John Vervaeke debate metaphysical idealism, naturalism, consciousness, and the meaning crisis.
0:00 Introduction
8:50 Green Room
9:43 Context Exposition
10:33 Intros
12:53 Vervaeke Deep Continuity Rationalist
16:18 BK Analytic Idealist
19:14 Emergent Exploration
22:33 Plausibility Construct
26:33 Psychosocial Plausibility
29:12 Science and Consciousness
30:03 Culturally Manufactured Emergence
33:30 Normative Pragmatism
34:56 Disciplined Plausibility
36:02 Scotus and Ockham
38:44 Incoherent Notion of Being
40:48 Relativity and Alien Abduction
47:18 Individuating Consciousness
51:33 Standard Hume Empiricism
52:22 Elegance vs Realism
53:40 Nominal vs Ontic Partitioning
58:28 Questioning the Experiencer
1:01:18 Meta‑conscious Reflective Attention
1:03:03 Hume's Straw Man
1:04:16 Self and Meta‑consciousness
1:06:33 Dissociative Folded Reflection
1:08:08 What is the Self
1:09:33 Therapy Timeout
1:15:11 Solving the Meaning Crisis
1:17:33 Unbalanced Analytic Rationality
1:19:17 Idolatry of Nerds
1:26:24 Fluid Compensation for Physicalist Facade
1:28:42 Wrong Images of the World
1:32:27 Flat Ontologies and Depth Dimension
1:34:21 Obviousness of Experience
1:36:54 Normative Longing for Transcendental Noumenal
1:40:00 Meaning and Ontology
1:44:40 Meta‑meaning Worldview
1:51:05 Defining Existence
1:56:44 Drinking from Fount of Intelligibility
1:58:29 Behind the Scenes
2:01:33 Where Do You Disagree Most?
2:04:33 Real Field Harmonics
2:06:11 Grounding Monism & Spinoza Modes
2:15:01 Observation Beyond Dissociation
2:16:16 Space/Time Framework of Language
2:18:02 New Age Disavowal
2:19:13 Difference In Kind
2:24:20 Emergence Threshold
2:26:37 Inducing Dissociation in Universal Mind
2:30:33 Meta‑consciousness Reportability
2:34:40 Jung and Meta‑consciousness
2:38:00 Metacognition and Dissociation
2:43:22 Beyond Own Dissociation Boundary
2:45:55 Mental Dissociative Character
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- JV's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnvervaeke
- JV's "Meaning Crisis" series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54l8_ewcOlY&list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ
- BK's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeDZCa3VrRQvzBlVR-oVVmA
0:00 Introduction
8:50 Green Room
9:43 Context Exposition
10:33 Intros
12:53 Vervaeke Deep Continuity Rationalist
16:18 BK Analytic Idealist
19:14 Emergent Exploration
22:33 Plausibility Construct
26:33 Psychosocial Plausibility
29:12 Science and Consciousness
30:03 Culturally Manufactured Emergence
33:30 Normative Pragmatism
34:56 Disciplined Plausibility
36:02 Scotus and Ockham
38:44 Incoherent Notion of Being
40:48 Relativity and Alien Abduction
47:18 Individuating Consciousness
51:33 Standard Hume Empiricism
52:22 Elegance vs Realism
53:40 Nominal vs Ontic Partitioning
58:28 Questioning the Experiencer
1:01:18 Meta‑conscious Reflective Attention
1:03:03 Hume's Straw Man
1:04:16 Self and Meta‑consciousness
1:06:33 Dissociative Folded Reflection
1:08:08 What is the Self
1:09:33 Therapy Timeout
1:15:11 Solving the Meaning Crisis
1:17:33 Unbalanced Analytic Rationality
1:19:17 Idolatry of Nerds
1:26:24 Fluid Compensation for Physicalist Facade
1:28:42 Wrong Images of the World
1:32:27 Flat Ontologies and Depth Dimension
1:34:21 Obviousness of Experience
1:36:54 Normative Longing for Transcendental Noumenal
1:40:00 Meaning and Ontology
1:44:40 Meta‑meaning Worldview
1:51:05 Defining Existence
1:56:44 Drinking from Fount of Intelligibility
1:58:29 Behind the Scenes
2:01:33 Where Do You Disagree Most?
2:04:33 Real Field Harmonics
2:06:11 Grounding Monism & Spinoza Modes
2:15:01 Observation Beyond Dissociation
2:16:16 Space/Time Framework of Language
2:18:02 New Age Disavowal
2:19:13 Difference In Kind
2:24:20 Emergence Threshold
2:26:37 Inducing Dissociation in Universal Mind
2:30:33 Meta‑consciousness Reportability
2:34:40 Jung and Meta‑consciousness
2:38:00 Metacognition and Dissociation
2:43:22 Beyond Own Dissociation Boundary
2:45:55 Mental Dissociative Character
SPONSORS:
- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal
- PayPal: https://bit.ly/2EOR0M4
- Discord: Join with code dmGgQ2dRzS
- Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything
RESOURCES:
- YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWcTmeAs44I
- Curt's interview with JV alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p8o3-7mvQc
- Curt's interview with BK alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB21FAXCDE
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt
- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802
- Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e
- JV's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnvervaeke
- JV's "Meaning Crisis" series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54l8_ewcOlY&list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ
- BK's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeDZCa3VrRQvzBlVR-oVVmA
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