Cold Open: A message from Mr. Clean Networks. Main Show: We're joined by Shoshana Wodinsky (https://twitter.com/swodinsky) who helps us breakdown the emerging digital cold war between the US and China. We get into the lunatics who are making policy and writing columns about the coming Chinese Cyber Imperium. Plus, we descend into the abyss of the American Mind. Read Shoshana's excellent article: https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/08/it-doesnt-matter-who-owns-tiktok/ Hosted by Jathan Sadowski (https://twitter.com/jathansadowski) and Edward Ongweso Jr. (https://twitter.com/bigblackjacobin). Production / Music by Jereme Brown (https://twitter.com/braunestahl).
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