What Can Cleantech Do for Europe's Security? With General Tom Middendorp

From the invasion of Ukraine to heat waves, from the closure of the Strait of Hormuz to the new China shock, the EU seems to time and again suffer through world events that it cannot control. In this new era of insecurity, we urgently need to acknowledge the scale of the challenge and to do all it takes to take back control of our destiny. And in this quest for a stronger Europe, we believe clean technologies are our first line of defense.

In the first episode of the second season of Time to Scale, our executive director Jules Besnainou meets General Tom Middendorp, former Chief of Defense of the Netherlands and Chair of the International Military Council on Climate and Security. Together, they discuss the intersections of climate, security, and defense; the role of cleantech in addressing these challenges; and how to adapt to this new era by building resilient energy systems.

(01:12) Introducing General Tom Middendorp

(06:37) A new security era

(14:23) The intersection of cleantech and defense

(21:15) Building a resilient energy system

(34:00) Adapting to climate change threats

👤 General Tom Middendorp’s LinkedIn

🌐 International Military Council on Climate & Security

Hosted by Jules Besnainou, executive director and founder of Cleantech for Europe, Time to Scale features in-depth conversations with the entrepreneurs, investors and policymakers driving Europe’s green reindustrialisation. Every episode welcomes a new guest who shares their personal journey, projects, challenges, and vision for the continent’s clean technology revolution. From green steel to renewable energy, the podcast explores the science, economics and politics shaping Europe’s industrial future, and the barriers to scaling cleantech across the continent.  

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