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Vatican Access with Robert Duncan

Cardinal Czerny: "The Church Is Not a Policy Machine"

50 min1 april 2026

Cardinal Michael Czerny — a senior Vatican official and longtime collaborator of Pope Francis — has become one of the Catholic Church’s most influential voices on migration, human dignity, and global solidarity.

In this conversation, he reflects on his origins, shaped in part by his parents’ experience as immigrants of Jewish and Christian background—a story marked by displacement, survival, and renewal. That inheritance would later inform his priestly vocation, through human rights work in El Salvador and the fight against AIDS in Africa, and eventually in his service in Rome.

A close advisor within the Vatican, Cardinal Czerny has played a key role in articulating the Church’s response to migration and environmental challenges through the Dicastery for Promoting Integral Human Development. As debates over borders, identity, and national sovereignty intensify across Europe and the United States, his perspective raises a pressing question: is the Church still being heard in the West?

Guest bio:

Cardinal Michael Czerny is a Jesuit priest and senior official of the Holy See. He has served extensively in human rights work in Latin America and Africa and has been a leading figure in the Vatican’s engagement with migration, social justice, and integral human development.

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