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Dr. Samson Munn on Recovering Art by Jacob Mącznik and other School of Paris Artists, Escaping the Burden of Silence Through Dialogue, Citizenship, Israeli PM Netanyahu, the Fraught Concept of Legacy & Defining Justice

1 tim 26 min•3 december 2023

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Cover Image:  Self-Portrait, oil on canvas by Jacob Mącznik.

To learn more, please visit the website for Jacob Mącznik, the Lost Art Database page for Mącznik's Still Life with Fish,  The Austrian Encounter and the trailer to The Ghosts of the Third Reich.

Show Notes:

0:00 Dr. Samson Munn discussing Van Ham art auctionhouse

1:45 Munn’s background

2:50 history of Holocaust-related dialogue with Dan Bar-On

4:00 Children of the Third Reich

4:20 Austrian dialogue group 

4:35 Ghosts of the Third Reich

6:00 second group, The Encounter 

7:45 Dan Bar-On’s book Fear and Hope

12:00 examples from dialogue groups

17:15 Munn’s initial motivation to start dialogue group - emotional responsibility 

24:40 Munn’s dialogue work in Northern Ireland

27:25 dialogue work with descendants of displaced indigenous peoples

28:50 preparation for dialogue group facilitators 

32:20 screening individuals for dialogue groups

33:45 Israeli, Polish and German citizenship

44:30 Jacob Mącznik’s work 

1:00:00 Van Ham auctionhouse

1:06:00 Parisian archive research

1:11:00 Munn’s research of other artists from the Paris School

1:12:30 female artists from the Paris School

1:14:30 Mącznik catalogue raisonne

1:17:00 legacy that Munn is working to create

1:19:30 justice

1:22:30 Israeli PM Netanyahu


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