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Carlos King on Keyshia Cole Cussing Him Out, Encore, and Beyoncé vs Michael Jackson | We Sound Crazy

46 min25 juni 2026

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The We Sound Crazy family rolls out the red carpet this week for the self-proclaimed musical genius and undisputed King of Reality TV himself, Carlos King. Joining hosts Philionaire, Claude Kelly and Chuck Harmony of Louis York, and Tamone Bacon, the Detroit-born mastermind behind Belle Collective, Love & Marriage: Huntsville, Bold & Bougie, Grown and Gospel, and a long list of other franchises pulls up to set the record straight on the "Black Andy Cohen" comparison, his deep love for music, and why his ear for talent runs in the family (his father played saxophone for The Dramatics before walking away from the road to raise ten kids).

 

The conversation moves fast and pulls no punches. Carlos relives the now-legendary moment when a young Keyshia Cole cussed him out on a 106 & Park red carpet while he was still a PA reading questions off a producer's clipboard. He breaks down why Keyshia, Tamar Braxton, and Cardi B set the blueprint for using reality television to launch and protect a music career, and names exactly which current artists (Normani, Chloe Bailey, Victoria Monet, Durand Bernarr) he believes should be lacing up their boots for the same play.

 

Then the gloves come off. Carlos walks us through the rise and stall of The Encore, his beloved BET girl-group experiment that he calls top two of his entire career, lays out the four reasons girl groups can't survive (ego, men, management, work ethic), and shares why Chloe x Halle splitting too early still bothers him. From there he flexes his Mount Rushmore of gospel singers (Kirk Franklin, Yolanda Adams, Shirley Caesar, Aretha Franklin), defends Amazing Grace as Aretha's untouchable peak, and explains why he plays gospel every morning without fail. He also weighs in on why he believes today's R&B falls in comparison to the '90s, why too many singers have never set foot in a church, and why he no longer goes to concerts (his words: lip-syncing, no choreography, no production, no Frank Gatson).

 

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Director: John Dierre 

Camera Op: Josh Sowemimo, James Hart, John Dierre 

Sound Mixer: Derrick Chin

Editing Team: Hyyer Creative

Show Producer: Michael “Roux” Johnson

Producer: Aaron Walton, Lamont Baldwin

Assistant: Brittany Guydon 

Talent Producer: Isaac Hamm III 

Photography: Ah'meer Holt 

PA: Kaye Brasley, Tony Cole


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Special thanks to Carlos King!

 

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