In Episode 309 of History in Five Songs with Martin Popoff, Martin delves into the theory that traditional, conservative pub rock diluted the innovation of New Wave, highlighting how artists like Elvis Costello, Joe Jackson, and Rockpile carried this "pub rock problem" into a genre otherwise defined by its creative and edgy origins.
- Elvis Costello – “The Beat”
- Joe Jackson – “Kinda Kute”
- Rockpile – “A Knife and a Fork”
- Talking Heads – “New Feeling”
- Patti Smith – “Space Monkey”
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