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🧬 From CFO to Founder: Building a Women's Health Biotech | Sabrina Johnson (3/4)

42 min•26 maj 2026
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"Women's health is not niche. It's half the population — I just kept asking why no one was doing this. One Saturday morning I realized: I'm somebody."

In this episode, Jon Chee continues with Sabrina Johnson, DARÉ Bioscience CEO, tracing 13 years at Cypress Bioscience — from a hallway eavesdrop that earned her an FDA panel seat, to VP of Marketing, an "interim" CFO role held for nearly a decade, and COO. She covers a fibromyalgia Phase 3 that missed at p=0.058, the disclosure gap, and a hostile takeover that forced the sale — then shares the Monday resignation and elevator pitch that led to founding DARÉ.

Key Topics Covered:
  • The Hallway Eavesdrop: A slide-database build over moving weekend and one ask to attend an FDA panel unlocked thirteen years at Cypress.
  • CFO Is Sales: Why Jay Kranzler said the CFO role is really sales — and why Sabrina eventually agreed.
  • When a Trial Misses at p=0.058: Stock down 50% in a day. What she knew vs. what she could legally say.
  • Hostile Takeover and Shareholder Reality: Investor pressure forced a sale and what she wishes she had communicated about pipeline value.
  • The Real Cost of Going Public: The $2–2.5M annual price tag and why DARÉ chose a reverse merger over an IPO.
  • Founding DARÉ: The Saturday morning epiphany, $800K seed round, and why women's health is not a niche.

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Resources & Articles:
Exit Strategies in Life Sciences Venture Capital: https://www.excedr.com/blog/exit-strategies-in-life-sciences-venture-capital 
Funding Research on Women's Health: https://www.nature.com/articles/s44222-024-00253-7 

Companies, Universities, & People Mentioned:
DARÉ Bioscience: https://darebioscience.com/ 
Cypress Bioscience: https://cypress-bio.com 
WomanCare Global: https://dktwomancare.org 
Calibr-Skaggs Institute: https://calibr.scripps.edu 

Jay Kranzler (CEO, Cypress Bioscience): https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-d-kranzler-66b08b12 
Peter Schultz (President, Scripps Research): https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-schultz-ba07a8373 
Roger Hawley (First Investor, DARÉ): https://www.linkedin.com/in/roger-hawley-74067618 
Caitlyn Krebs (CEO, Nalu Bio): https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitlynkrebs 

Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:42 Why Sabrina Left Advanced Tissue Sciences for Cypress Bioscience
05:38 The Hallway Eavesdrop and the FDA Meeting Bargain
07:17 How Jay Kranzler Opened Every Door at Cypress
08:00 Accepting the CFO Role — "Just Interim"
09:51 Why a Public Company CFO Is Really in Sales
11:23 Managing the Street: Disclosure and Investor Communication
14:19 The Fibromyalgia Phase 3 That Missed at p=0.058
18:21 Hostile Takeover Pressure and Selling Cypress
19:48 Should Biotech Startups Stay Private Longer?
21:53 The Real Annual Cost of Being a Public Company
23:57 Post-Cypress: Finding Women's Health and WomanCare Global
30:04 The Saturday Morning Epiphany and Founding DARÉ
37:16 Building the Team and Raising the First $800K
40:30 Outro


The Biotech Startups Podcast gives you a front-row seat to the business and science of building a biotech. Hosted by Jon Chee, CEO of Excedr, the show features honest conversations with founders, execs, and investors about their work, their companies, and how they got there. From scientific breakthroughs to startup lessons, each episode explores what it really takes to grow a life science company—from pre-seed to IPO.

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