Do you find yourself defaulting to “Preacher” mode when you’re under pressure, or starting to act like a “Prosecutor” when someone challenges your ideas? Brené and Adam unpack four mental modes – Preacher, Prosecutor, Politician, and Scientist – to explore why we often cling to being right rather than getting it right. In this episode, they discuss how these defensive stances are shaping our response to AI, Brené’s “bounce” method for emotional hypothesis-testing, Adam’s go-to “strategy of small losses,” and ways to stay curious when the stakes are high.
You can find The Curiosity Shop on YouTube and Instagram (@thecuriosityshop).
0:00 - Introduction and Emoting
3:00 - Thinking Under Thread
11:00 - Testing Your Gut with Small Experiments
22:30 - The Integrity of Commitment: The Making of This Podcast
27:15 - Four Thinking Modes: Scientist, Preacher, Prosecutor, Politician
33:57 - When Opinions Become Beliefs
42:48 - The Social Costs of Changing Our Minds
51:30 - A Missing Mental Model: Teacher
59:30 - Wrap up
Think Again: The Power of Knowing What You Don't Know - Adam Grant, 2021, Book
Eric Ries on ‘The Lean Startup’ - Eric Ries, 2011, Knowledge at Wharton
Affective Forecasting - Wilson & Gilbert, 2003, Advances in Experimental Social Psychology
Atlas of the Heart - Brené Brown, 2021 (Book)
The Science of the Deal - Adam Grant, WorkLife with Adam Grant Podcast
The Power of Vulnerability - Brené Brown, 2011, TED
The Surprising Habits of Original Thinkers - Adam Grant, 2016, TED
Beliefs Are Like Possessions - Abelson, 2007, Journal for the Theory of Social Behaviour
We Need to Talk about Astrology - Adam Grant, 2024, Substack
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