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108. Emmalee Bierly & Jennifer Chaiken of ShrinkChicks on Friendships Between Moms and Non-Moms

54 min17 juni 2026

Keltie is joined by therapists and hosts of the ShrinkChicks Podcast, Emmalee Bierly and Jennifer Chaiken, to discuss friendships between moms and women without kids — including their own. Hear them explore:

  • How Jennifer supported Emmalee through postpartum depression and fertility struggles — and why it was actually a good thing Jennifer isn't a mom as well.
  • Your biggest friendship dilemmas with friends who are moms.
  • Why open communication and honesty are the key to navigating different life choices.
  • How to bridge the divide that can occur when one of you has kids and the other doesn't.

(2:13) Meet Emmalee and Jennifer, their friendship, & their Kids or Childfree choices (16:01) How Emmalee's motherhood journey impacted their friendship (32:14) Advice on feeling left out in friend groups comprised mostly of moms (39:12) Misconceptions about moms or childfree people

About The ShrinkChicks Emmalee Bierly & Jennifer Chaiken are both Licensed Marriage and Family Therapists, co-owners of the private therapy practice, The Therapy Group, and co-hosts of the ShrinkChicks Podcast! They believe in being down to earth, authentic, and transparent, which are values they bring both to their practice as well as their podcast! Their mission is to make therapy more relatable and accessible, working to break down that clinical wall. As mentioned in the episode Tune in to hear Keltie on the ShrinkChicks Podcast Find Emmalee and Jennifer on Instagram at:@shrinkchicks @thetherapygrp Their website is thetherapygroup.com Join our upcoming Grow or No Workshhop happening on June 24th.

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