Ep. 524 Use a Messy Closet, a 3-Hour Rule for Difficult People & Renowned Judy Blume on Reading

We explore a helpful approach for handling important tasks that can’t be dealt with at present, by stashing them in the metaphorical "messy closet" without guilt. Our happiness hack offers expert advice for managing social situations with difficult people. We also feature a special interview with legendary author Judy Blume about fostering a love of reading, her experiences with book banning, and insights from owning an indie bookstore. 

Resources & Links Related to this episode:

• Pre-order your copy of Secrets of Adulthood
• Join me on book tour starting April 1, 2025
• Take the Four Tendencies quiz
• Elizabeth is reading: Code Girls: The Untold Story of the American Women Code Breakers of World War II by Liza Mundy (Amazon, Bookshop)
• Gretchen is reading: Stone Yard Devotional by Charlotte Wood (Amazon, Bookshop)

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