Hands down THE most vulnerable I've ever been on the internet. Buckle up!!!
In this episode I sat down with one of my closest friends, Aliza Shapiro. She’s a licensed psychotherapist, the founder of Therapy in the City, and one of the sharpest clinical minds I’ve ever been around. Aliza trained in DBT with psychiatrist Dr. Charles Swenson, studied CBT under a Harvard psychologist, completed Wharton’s leadership program, and has built a following of more than 300K people who trust her to tell them the truth about their own minds.
This one is for the woman who has been doing the work. The journals, the meditations, the affirmations. And still feels like something is off. Or the woman who keeps choosing the same pattern, the same unavailable person, the same version of chaos, and deep down she knows it. She just doesn’t know how to stop.
What makes this conversation different is that Aliza hasn’t only seen my story from the outside. She has been on the clinical side of everything I’ve lived through -- the eating disorder, the depression, the years of DBT, the toxic relationships, the complete rebuilding. This is the therapist and the patient sitting in the same room, and I’ve never gone this deep publicly before. I gave her full permission to go there, and she did.
We talk about why you cannot manifest your way out of an unregulated nervous system. Why your brain will literally choose what’s familiar, even if it’s destroying you, over something healthy that it has never experienced. Why doing spiritual work without emotional work keeps people stuck. And what actually has to shift at the root before anything you’re calling in can land.
Inside this episode we talk about:
Why we keep choosing unavailable partners and the nervous system patterns behind it
What nervous system regulation actually means
The difference between chemistry and chaos in relationship
How I stopped needing to control the outcome and what shifted in my love life
Repetition compulsion and why the brain chooses what’s familiar even when it hurts you
The four DBT modules that changed my life and how to start using them
Why manifestation doesn’t work without psychological work, and why therapy alone isn’t enough
The dialectical dilemma most people have never heard of: unrelenting crisis and inhibited grieving
How to find a good therapist and know when one isn’t the right fit
Three simple ways to start regulating your nervous system today
If you’ve been living in extremes where everything feels incredible or everything feels like it’s falling apart, this conversation will meet you in the middle.
Can’t wait to hear your thoughts!
xx
Hannah
Find Hannah on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/itshannaheve/ Find Aliza on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alizashapirotherapy/
Aliza’s Practice, Therapy in the City: https://www.therapyinthecity.org/
01:40 Meet Aliza Shapiro and the work she does
03:05 Why DBT became such a big part of my life
05:24 High highs, low lows, and living in emotional extremes
06:32 What DBT actually is and why it works
09:41 Learning how to actually spot your patterns
12:11 Letting go of control and the need to know how it ends
19:14 Choosing differently when you’re triggered
25:10 Dark moments and learning to stay with the feeling
29:00 Why therapy actually helps when it’s done well
31:17 The four DBT modules that changed my life
35:34 Neediness versus secure love
37:59 Understanding your nervous system
39:28 Overstimulation and the fight or flight response
42:23 Practical ways to regulate your nervous system
46:04 Where therapy and spiritual work need to meet
49:51 How to find DBT support and resources
53:07 Tools, apps, and final thoughts
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